Prayer was good. I'm a little rusty having been off for 5 days but it went ok. Br. Bil gave a talk about avoiding sin and how it is harder to do than good deeds (totally agree). He then started listing things and asking the kids if they were halal or haram. And in my head I'm going "Oh no, don't do what I think you are going to do." He started with McDonalds down the street. Haram. Kentucky Fried Chicken. Haram. Music. Haram WAIT WHAT! Was the response of the entire room which started yelling "Only some, only some!" I thought Sr. A was going to get up and yell at him she was so mad saying "He knows better than to do that! The all music issue is cultural! He should not be teaching the kids that." Br. Bil had to think quickly and change the subject before a riot broke out. That is the one thing that bothers me about Br. Bil; he often imposes his own personal views (Christians being unbelievers, music is haram) on the children. Mash'Allah the children have been taught well enough to argue back :).
And on to Br. Bil and Br. N's class. I will post the history notes separate later. Today we discussed Backbiting or Gheeba. There are two kinds of backbiting: talking behind someone's back but saying a true thing and talking behind someone's back saying a false thing. Both are bad for that person because they are not there to defend themselves. Br. Bil interjected and tried to get into the different rules which apply to backbiting with muslims and non muslims. Why there is a difference I'm not sure since I personally think we should be nice to everyone. The difference though is that you are required to attempt to stop another muslim from backbiting; you are not required to stop a non muslim. He did not go into detail on this so I looked it up later and the reasoning basically is because a muslim does not have the right to tell a non muslim what to do in this case. And in their case you should just avoid the backbiting they are producing. The only time backbiting is allowed if it is to save someone from danger ex "Sister, I saw so and so get pick pocketed by that man on the corner. Please be careful going home." I am talking about the man on the corner, it is a true negative, but it was done to save Sister from harm.
I also learned that a couple years ago someone taught this topic of backbiting all wrong and it caused fights to break out both at the Islamic school and at the kid's academic schools. I'm not very clear on the details but it seems that they all started to constantly correct each other or tattle because it could "cause harm". They had also been taught that it was ok to backbite Christians which caused a frenzy at their schools. Somehow, from the previous teacher, they had gotten the impression that this rule only applies to muslims. Guess what it applies to EVERYONE. Even polytheists. The prophet greatly disliked backbiting, made it an even bigger sin than adultery. If the world could avoid backbiting, it would be a much nicer place.
A quote from Imam Ali " The distance between Heaven and Hell is four fingers." The distance between your eye and your ear is four fingers. Your eyes and ears can both tell you the truth, and trick you at the same time.
I got to see Sr. N after her long trip. She has invited me to a 20 something muslim philosophy gathering on Fridays. There are suppose to be a lot of converts there, I really hope to attend. They will discuss a topic and open it up to the floor to get a lot of opinions. Fascinating.
The End is really hard to understand, or wrap your mind around, no matter how you try to come at it. The end of *everything*? Nothing left? But...what then? I can understand the insistence on getting our physical forms back. It's the only way we know how to live, how to relate to everything, is through physicality. I mean, I believe in a physical resurrection, because that's what is promised to us in the Bible, but how? Are we going to be the same? What's it going to be like? We have no idea. And the Book of Revelation is so highly symbolic that people who try to read it literally wind up twisting themselves silly.
ReplyDeletere: backbiting. It's not surprising that at least one teacher taught that the rules don't apply to non-Muslims. It's an attitude I've come across before - Muslims believe that only other Muslims are worth any thing. Very sad, and disturbing.
The rules remind me of a quote I heard once, from one of the Church Fathers. I can't recall it word for word, but the part that stuck with me was that if you heard anything about your neighbor, to keep it to yourself - the information won't burst you for being kept inside. :)
Amber: if you took Revelation literally you would explode. Dragon of fire coming from the ground, 4 scary horsemen, etc etc. Sounds a bit "out there". Its probably the best read of the entire Bible though :)
ReplyDeletePeople are taught all sorts of wrong things. In the end, God does not want us to be mean to anyone. And if Muslims are so concerned with following Muhammad then they wouldn't backbite Christians as he always made a point to treat them with respect, at least in my research thus far. There is no gain by disrespecting someone, so why do it.
I think I've heard that quote too.
Enjoyed all this so much! Wow, Br. Bil sounds like a borderline extremist. :-/ Good thing y'all are setting him straight! :)
ReplyDeleteThe Friday gathering with the converts sounds fun. Let us know how that goes if you get a chance to attend.
Agreed that Revelation is not to be taken literally! Ahhh, crazy stuff if so!
Thanks for sharing all of this!
Susanne: Br. Bil is just very black and white, but I wouldn't call him extremist.
ReplyDeleteI know so many who want to take Revelation literally, including some nuns who taught at my college. Um yeah no lol
Interesting stuff!
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what I think about backbiting. Definitely gossiping is bad, and making someone look bad just for the sake of it is bad, but I feel there are times when a person needs to talk about something to seek advice or support... and I would hate to think that fear of backbiting stops a person from doing that.
Sarah: its a fine line but their is a difference. If they are talking to you merely to complain about that other person and spread gossip thats bad. But yes sometimes you need to talk to someone in which case you do not mention the name of the person. That way they stay anonmous and you do not have to worry about someone repeating what you said about them.
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